06/17/2003 12:18:38 EDT User [BryantPk] joined forum from 12.40.110.147
[BryantPk] hello?
[BryantPk] weird
06/17/2003 13:12:31 EDT User [nkh] joined forum from 128.97.72.45

[nkh] good morning
[BryantPk] heya, good lunch
[nkh] can you see our stream
[nkh] Hi denis, nice to meet you
[nkh] did you eat lunch
[BryantPk] sure honey, i had a veggie foccacia, thanks very BRYANT PARK!
[nkh] where is bryant park i'm going to look it up
[BryantPk] WE CAN SEE YOUR STREAM!!!
[BryantPk] bryant park is at 42nd and 6th Ave
[nkh] looks beautiful
[BryantPk] www.bryantpark.org
[nkh] didi you see me?
[BryantPk] no?
[nkh] watch
[nkh] now did you see/hear me?
[BryantPk] GR8
[BryantPk] see only
[BryantPk] hard to hear in the ambient noise here
[nkh] let's start one sided
[nkh] send me a movement instruction from Denis and I'll do it
[nkh] don't make it too hard. :)
[BryantPk] enter stage left and move your arms from waste to head level and forward
[BryantPk] that was beautiful!
[BryantPk] like a ghost
[nkh] oooo, i like being a ghost!
[BryantPk] we made a screenshot
[BryantPk] do the weeble-wobble toy (slowly and with a bog grin)
[BryantPk] big grin
 
 
   

[BryantPk] I am at ivisit.net/Arts/Dance/Cage/Connections
[BryantPk] is that harold?
[nkh] harold just joined the list do you see him?
[BryantPk] YEA
[nkh] what next?
[BryantPk] we have about an hour of battery power
[nkh] silvina szperling is here with me now
[nkh] she is a dancer/video artist who recently moved here from Argentina
[BryantPk] hello silvina!
[nkh] what a beautiful place
[nkh] makes me nostalgic for New York
[nkh] silvina is "moving" hello
[nkh] we see a book
[BryantPk] dennis is showing you his lunch time reading
[nkh] oh very nice
[nkh] he is a scientist?
[nkh] We are getting stills only
[nkh] the Carbon cycle eh?
[BryantPk] yes it's slow
[nkh] hello nice people in the park
[nkh] silvina is dancing the carbon cycle
[nkh] I see trees
[nkh] a hot sunny day in nyc
[nkh] the shadow of a man
[nkh] gestures
[nkh] an arm extended
[nkh] equipment
[nkh] sidewalk
[nkh] a gesture imitated-communication established
[nkh] pavement swishing by
[BryantPk] lunchhour is winding down here, the officetypes are going back to work
[BryantPk] we're getting a little chilly, could we borrow a scarf?!
[BryantPk] resonanting sprawl from nyc!
[nkh] sure
[nkh] but the scarf is a little small
[BryantPk] park police doesn't like me sprawling on the table!!
[nkh] why not
[nkh] ahh security
[nkh] eeek
[BryantPk] we're getting chilly and need to pee
[BryantPk] we're going into the library, and maybe connect from there
[BryantPk] BFN

[norahk] we have moved into the library now with our nyc connection
[norahk] i see a painted ceiling
[norahk] desire is to respond to hte input coming from the spaace
[norahk] beautiful detailed etchings on the architecture, lattice work
[norahk] a ski painted high above
[norahk] a cherub
[norahk] angels
[NYlibrary] hi
[norahk] we thought denis would like this 3d model
[NYlibrary] we only can see a tiny corner of the 3d model
[NYlibrary] now!! wow!!
[NYlibrary] gorgeous!!
[norahk] you like?
[NYlibrary] it reminds me of a quote from Merleau-Ponty
[norahk] we love the building you are in
[norahk] what quote
[NYlibrary] something like " how can we say that we are in space when in fact we are space.."
[NYlibrary] sorry bad paraphrasing...   
[NYlibrary] just to see the molecule and all the emptiness--i love it!
[norahk] we love the quote, when in fact we are space, especially in this digital world
[norahk] ralph lemon did this great project where he did
[norahk] movement improvs in public space trying to remain inconspicuous
[NYlibrary] yes, i like ralph
[norahk] so denis can try movement improvs that are "of the place"
[norahk] an idea
[NYlibrary] the security guy at the park is not an issue here
[NYlibrary] but, the "of the place" is the thing!
[norahk] send it along
[norahk] nice flower
[NYlibrary] the camera is loving the ceiling, we'll dance a bit later
[norahk] ahhh ok
[norahk] want to give us movement instructions?
[NYlibrary] can we get a close-up on silvina, moving slowly with a full screen 3d background?
[NYlibrary] one arm is like one branch of the chain
[NYlibrary] stillness here really works,
[NYlibrary] we start to feel the empty spaces that constitute the body
[norahk] beautiful
[norahk] i'm reading it to her
[NYlibrary] gorgeous gorgeous
[NYlibrary] micro is macro
[NYlibrary] shoulders are plants
[NYlibrary] architectural detail is duetting women
[NYlibrary] dancing
[NYlibrary] fingers typing wow wonderful
[norahk] cavities opening up air entering, deep water
[NYlibrary] reading rooms in the intestines
[norahk] molecular libraries
[NYlibrary] ny public library intestines in the ceiling of the reading room
[NYlibrary] water memory oceans bodies of water bodies of memory
[NYlibrary] if these walls could talk!
[NYlibrary] maybe these wall are talking! they can talk!

[NYlibrary] can silvina dance with the angel on the other screen
[NYlibrary] nice
[NYlibrary] caressing the angels
[NYlibrary] what are the ceilings of the library telling you?
[norahk] we lost your stream, i did something
[NYlibrary] we're still sending
[NYlibrary] we'll wait

 

[norahk] the ceilings of the library tell me that there is limitless space in the mind
[norahk] books
[NYlibrary] can someone dance in the clouds?
[NYlibrary] or ride them? 
[NYlibrary] yeah
[NYlibrary] floating, nice
[NYlibrary] we c u so well!!!
[NYlibrary] wonderful clouds
[NYlibrary] and when norah's fingers are open, we see something very peculiar
[NYlibrary] fantastic, beautiful portraiture!
[NYlibrary] silv-face left and dance in the portrait mode
[NYlibrary] yes
[NYlibrary] yes
[NYlibrary] spinal undulation forward and back?
[NYlibrary] yes
[NYlibrary] beautiful arms!  
[NYlibrary] swan neck and beak
[norahk] she feels like she is being bathed
[norahk] ski and clouds and golden opulence enveloping
[NYlibrary] in the light of the ceiling of the nYpublic library!
[NYlibrary] amazing!
[NYlibrary] ij feels like she is caressing her

 

[NYlibrary] silv and the chandeliers
[norahk] looks light a make up counter before a show
[norahk] lights
[NYlibrary] there really are little faces in the chandelier
[NYlibrary] frog eggs
[norahk] silv is taking a break the frog eggs got to her
[norahk] just kidding about the frog eggs
[NYlibrary] we want to see more of nora
[NYlibrary] there ur!
[NYlibrary] mouth open is great...nice nice
[NYlibrary] esp. with light and dark eating the light
[NYlibrary] can you dance with your head in the mouth?
[NYlibrary] yeah
[NYlibrary] very sci-fi
[NYlibrary] fantastic
[NYlibrary] scale-this mouth is about 30 feet from us and is probably only 6" tall
[NYlibrary] across the continent it is 7' tall and a duet partner
[NYlibrary] here it is hardly noticed, noticable
[NYlibrary] dancing with the light ball is great, beautiful
[NYlibrary] it is the moon
[NYlibrary] Nora is the rabbit in the moon
[NYlibrary] sorry, ij changed tapes
[NYlibrary] norah's back
[NYlibrary] hello
[NYlibrary] rock out
[NYlibrary] flying hair is beautiful
[norahk] pieces of body revealed by light
[NYlibrary] hands to thymus and face --beautiful
[NYlibrary] mood change from one inch of camera movement
[NYlibrary] flying out the window

 

[NYlibrary] hands are amazing
[NYlibrary] i want to do a hand duet with nora
[norahk] yeah!
[norahk] we see denis typing
[norahk] wow jsut for a minute though can we talk about that
[norahk] i loved all of it
[norahk] silvina's bath in the sky
[norahk] a dance with you
[library] some serious keyboard contortions!
[norahk] i actually felt like i was touching you at times
[library] yes, likewise
[norahk] when I carressed the giant fingers there was sensation akin to carressing in physical form
[library] your reaction to the tight shot of my fingers was so close to how i felt as i was holding my fingers in that place, position, duration
[library] your dance reaction i mean
[library] i was able to watch what ij was shooting, how it was being sent to your background, how you were dancing with it all simultaneous
[norahk] silvina says that our perceptions that give us these experiences
[norahk] yes, the composite image
[norahk] in that image we do touch
[library] we do touch
[library] we feel many of the same things
[norahk] proprioceptions
[norahk] wild
[norahk] what a beautiful experience that was
[norahk] and for us stranded here is the giant metropolis
[norahk] a little taste of new york is like heaven
[library] we distorted space, love it, changed dimensions because we can and we enjoy it!
[library] a little taste of your techno portal is nice too!
[library] hi this is ij
[library] this was terrific
[norahk] it is best when we also have a window out like today
[library] yes, this is the ticket, get out of the studio and into rl
[library] real life
[norahk] real life
[norahk] I feel good physically
[norahk] things here got very quiet and our breathing just slowed
[library] vry cool, who would have guessed -you CAN dance in the main reading room!!!
[norahk] ralph lemon would be so proud
[library] nobody really seemed to notice here...

[library] the world got to be a littlesmaller 2day
[silvina] thank you, small world indeed
[library] there really is something "real" about it all , today i mean
[norahk] I think it is because we incorporate it into our sensing bodies
[library] the "physical" distance "really" is collapsed in some part of my brain and that part of my brain is changed even if only for a moment
[norahk] i did experience touch because I perceived it
[norahk] so true
[silvina] body connects even if you dont know how or when
[library] how is the sense of place or distance described by "scientific" language? [library] what "science" is happening around this language we are developing today?
[norahk] in geographic discourses sense of place include peripatetic (moving) sensing
[norahk] i.e. walking
[library] phenomenological psychology?
[norahk] the effort of walking creates a sensation in the body (heat, sweat, etc) that is an experience of place
[norahk] sensing place also has to do with memory of course
[library] when my "mind" goes to the screen space that i know is in LA "part of me" is there
[norahk] have you all read Lucy Lippard's "lure of the local"
[norahk] could probably get it there at the library
[library] i have not
[library] me neither
[library] hahahah
[library] we;ll look for it later
[library] sure we can borrow it here ; )
[norahk] anyway she likes to talk about sensing place
[norahk] did I sense the public library place?
[norahk] did i feel at home there?
[norahk] yes at times
[norahk] in the ceiling
[library] i'm working part time at a nusery for raising organic veggies, we talk alot about the importance of the local as well
[silvina] i think sense of place, from a common sense point of view, has to do with details you experience about your "home"
[norahk] local vs virtual
[library] abstract forms can create new spaces
[norahk] does this experience help you feel more at home where you are?
[norahk] understand LA differently?
[silvina] and you can feel that in different 'real" places, actually
[norahk] how does this kind of work affect our experiences of "lived" place? [silvina] yeah!, actually i feel more at home at ucla than in glendale (neighbourhood of LA
[library] it puts me more in touch with something of "who i am/where i am"
[norahk] oh say more
[library] part of which is my own interest in "energy" in general and my love for the "planet" as "home"
[norahk] right
[library] the portal was a very 'abstract" place from the beginning
[norahk] Peter Sellars says local is international and international is local
[norahk] right
[silvina] i felt very connected to both cities today, 'cause for me i am at a bulding home moment
[library] you are building a home within the portal enviro
[norahk] right
[norahk] I'm living here for two weeks, must make a good nes
[silvina] the fact of beign connected through dance and images, which is really my own language, makes me feel more at home
[library] cosmos--absolute felt present today
[norahk] the body as home
[library] ij and i had visited the north pole site between bryant park and reconnectin with you from the main reading room
[norahk] cosmos...cherubs and all
[silvina] so, what more an "own thing than the body?
[library] allow me this: "home is where your heart is" (ij)
[library] motto of my nomadic life
[silvina] yeah, who doesn't?
[norahk] lippard talks about having a "serially monogamous passion for place" I always loved that
[library] i'm in a space polygamy right now

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